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AustinHealey
AustinHealey Member Posts: 66
in Trailers & Towing

Looking at the Proven Industries 2178A tongue lock. Anyone have any experience? They have an aluminum and stainless steel puck lock. Stainless is $100 more, $350 with shipping with steel puck lock, $100 less with aluminum billet puck lock. Thoughts anyone? Wheel locks vs tongue locks?

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  • HikinMike
    HikinMike Member Posts: 400

    I have wheel and tongue

    2019 T@G Boondock Edge 5W
    2017 Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro
    2022 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 4xe

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  • Bob297
    Bob297 Member Posts: 148
    edited May 2020

    I have this one with the Abloy steel puck lock: Paid over $200

    https://ftknoxlocks.com/shop/ols/products/atwood-plus

    https://youtu.be/Sr2UfU9PxWo

    I also have a Proven Industry one that fits another trailer. Not the steel puck lock. Got it for under $180 a year or so ago.

    Teardrops are in demand for theft. If a thief really wants it—they will get it. I just think these are good deterrents over the cheaper crap out there. It doesn’t help when YouTube shows the crocks “how to” videos on how to open any of these locks.

    If your going with Proven Industries try these SHOP20 or SHOP30 discount codes. The 30 is for items over $300 and the 20 one is for items over $200. Good luck, I hope it works for you.

    Just to show you I do have one on my T@G, here’s a pic. The chain wraps around with the hook ends going inside bottom of lock so can’t pull out. Fits nice and tight.

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  • Sharon_is_SAM
    Sharon_is_SAM Member Posts: 696

    You may like to consider a Brahma wheel lock. You can easily steal a teardrop without using the hitch. Throw some chains through the frame and gone.

    Sharon - Westlake, Ohio | 2017 TaB CSS - 

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  • Fourman110
    Fourman110 Member Posts: 230

    I really like my Proven Industries lock. If someone wants it enough to get through that system, they really want to spend some time getting it. I use that and a wheel lock when traveling or storing.

    “I'm T@G-ing Out"
    Jay

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  • KimM
    KimM Member Posts: 6

    Question, is the coupler bolted on? In theory, couldn't someone just unbolt the coupler and put their own on? Are there any other measures people take besides the coupler lock and wheel locks?

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  • ontheroad
    ontheroad Member Posts: 190

    You name it I think we've got it...the idea is to make them move on...if they really want it they'll get it..

    2021 T@B Boondock CS-S
    Former owner of 2017 T@G MAX XL
    2018 Nissan Pathfinder

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  • csonni
    csonni Member Posts: 354

    @Sharon_is_SAM said:
    You may like to consider a Brahma wheel lock. You can easily steal a teardrop without using the hitch. Throw some chains through the frame and gone.

    Can't seem to find a price on those wheel locks without calling.

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  • Sharon_is_SAM
    Sharon_is_SAM Member Posts: 696
    edited January 2021

    Lockthewheel.com - $279
    Made in Canada, shipping cost should be favorable for you.

    Sharon - Westlake, Ohio | 2017 TaB CSS - 

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  • JohnnyLoco
    JohnnyLoco Member Posts: 195

    You don’t need to hitch the ball to steal a camper. I grew up around professional trailer thieves, you just back up to it wrap chains around it attached to the truck bumper and haul it somewheres that you can bust the lock.

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  • Sharon_is_SAM
    Sharon_is_SAM Member Posts: 696

    Hence the value of the Brahma lock.

    Sharon - Westlake, Ohio | 2017 TaB CSS - 

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  • csonni
    csonni Member Posts: 354

    The Brahma Lock isn’t much good for the TaG Boondock as they only work with steel wheels. Customer Service just replied back to me: “We have not created a lock for Aluminum/Mag rims as of yet. We are hoping to design something but have not made any announcements or given dates yet. We are still in the prototype phase of the locks and can not give an eta for when these will be available.”

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  • DaveB
    DaveB Member Posts: 101

    @csonni That seems strange, they have an adapter plate available that says it is for alloy wheels.
    In the pictures it is clearly a T@B 320 Boondock as well, which has the same wheels as the T@G
    https://lockthewheel.com/collections/frontpage/products/alloy-wheel-adapter-wl001a

    Toronto, Ontario Canada
    2020 T@G Boondock Edge XL

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  • csonni
    csonni Member Posts: 354

    I stand to be corrected. I connected with the wrong company. I thought Proven Industries manufactured the Brahma Wheel Lock, Here’s their reply. Hi Carl, you have contacted the incorrect company. We are not with Brahma. We are Proven Industries, please reach out to that company for assistance on the product in question. Thank you!

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  • csonni
    csonni Member Posts: 354

    From what I can see the tire size for the Boondock is 235/75/15. The Brahman lock will accommodate tires up to 235. Does anyone know if the flat cover is required for the Boondock?

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  • csonni
    csonni Member Posts: 354

    Just saw this: “ If you have aluminum alloy wheels, we recommend that you order this "flat" dish lug cover when ordering your lock. That way you will have everything you need when the lock arrives and will avoid paying extra shipping charges later. If you find that it was NOT required, you can return it via mail for a full $29 refund.”

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  • csonni
    csonni Member Posts: 354

    So, I called support and they said there have been some issues with the wheel lock fittings some of the Boondock tires, as some have a width too wide for the top part of the lock. They made new stock of the Brahma locks to be a 1/2 inch wider to accommodate this issue with the NuCamp Boondock tires. Support said they had to do that as they're losing some business of TaB and TaG owners due to this problem. I'm gonna have to have the dealer measure it for us as we're not yet in possession of it. Support told me to hold off ordering until I'm sure the tires are no wider than 9.5 inches.

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  • csonni
    csonni Member Posts: 354

    Just ordered the Proven Industries 2178A with a $20 off code. Now to find a wheel lock. The Brahma looks like the one but very pricey as well. I probably should've concentrated on spending more on the wheel lock rather than the tongue, but I'm not ready to commit myself to the wheel lock yet so I bit the bullet and went for the tongue lock. Not a lot of frame to latch onto on the T@G. The safety chains can be locked up inside the tongue lock.

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  • JohnnyLoco
    JohnnyLoco Member Posts: 195

    You can just run a bike cable through each wheel and around the axle, will deter most. Also, taking those china bomb 235’s off and putting on 205/75-15 goodyears was a plus without losing much ground clearance.

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  • csonni
    csonni Member Posts: 354

    Those bike cables can be snipped quite easily, no?

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  • HikinMike
    HikinMike Member Posts: 400

    Yes, as can any cable if the thief really wants what you have.

    2019 T@G Boondock Edge 5W
    2017 Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro
    2022 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 4xe

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  • GigHarborTom
    GigHarborTom Member Posts: 270

    As I remember bike cables are stainless and not all that easy to cut. We have sets of cables for our kayaks. They have survived hotels over night. Both on top of the 4Runner and laced to my trailered 12 electric boat.

    Gig Harbor Tom
    Trl '17 T@G Max
    TV 2018 Mazda CX9 Signature

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  • csonni
    csonni Member Posts: 354

    Just got my Proven Industries 2178-A coupler lock for our T@G. Can't say I remember 10 lbs weighing so much. It's a beast. Should definitely be a good deterrent. I think I'll wait a bit on deciding on what wheel lock to buy. I'd like to stick to something not so bulky. Proven Industries doesn't yet make one for anything but standard steel wheels.

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  • AZTag
    AZTag Member Posts: 13
    edited February 2021

    Beyond being a beast, does it fit well and is it easy to use? Looks like it fits well on Bob297's 2017 T@G, but wondering if it does with your new T@G. I've appreciated your posts as well as others above. Our T@G arrives next week so I'm looking into locking methods.

    2021 T@G Boondock
    2022 4Runner TRD Off Road
    Tucson, AZ

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  • zgfiredude
    zgfiredude Member Posts: 213

    Does anyone have a current discount code for the 2178-A?? @csonni

    '21 T@G 5w Boondock, 2006 Toyota Land Cruiser B)

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  • csonni
    csonni Member Posts: 354

    I used "Jay sent me" just a few weeks ago and saved $20.

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  • zgfiredude
    zgfiredude Member Posts: 213

    Thanks, worked like a charm! =)

    '21 T@G 5w Boondock, 2006 Toyota Land Cruiser B)

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  • csonni
    csonni Member Posts: 354

    @AZTag said:
    Beyond being a beast, does it fit well and is it easy to use?

    Our T@G is being delivered on March 8, so we haven't seen how well it fits yet.

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  • csonni
    csonni Member Posts: 354

    Connected my Proven Industries coupler lock to our T@G for the first time today. I love it....except for the fact that the security chains won't fit up underneath to lock them as well. When I hook them around the piece that fits up under where the ball goes, I doesn't go up nearly enough for it to latch down. That kind of minimizes the security when you think about it. Disappointed, for sure.

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  • JohnnyLoco
    JohnnyLoco Member Posts: 195

    Thats ok, thieves carry their own chains

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  • Herbie
    Herbie Member Posts: 2

    Was concerned about whether the Brahma wheel lock would fit on the tire of Herbie, my 2021 Tag XL Boondock, but wanted to secure my investment so took a chance. Fits perfectly - no problem. Highly recommend!

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