Quick update! Headed through the Coeur D’Alene area of a Idaho, some spots in between there and Jackson Wyoming. Nice boondocking spot with a view of the Tetons for 5 days (battery finally died on the last day), through Yellowstone, and now we are near Devil’s Tower.
Weather has been getting hot, but the fantastic fan works amazingly well at night when the temps drop down. But because we are traveling with dogs, we may looking at staying hooked up for the remainder of the trip as we head back east and south again.
Decided to head toward The Thousand Lakes area of Minnesota before our southbound journey to the Ozarks.
Years ago I saw that one of my T@G's brake/turn signal lights was on while the trailer was not connected to any external power. Turned out that water in the trailer's 7 pin connector caused a short that routed battery power to the light. I spun the cord around a few times so centrifical force forced the water out of the plug and then blew on the connector to remove any remaining water. The light went out and I now store the plug in a way that water cannot collect in it or the cap that is supposed to protect the plug's contacts.
Michigan Mike remarked that he had heard of the same thing happening to some other folks and drying the plug solved the problem.
Don't know if you are in wet conditions, but your problem might have a very simple solution.
As with all things electric, who knows? There are a thousand ways for things to short out.
Good luck...post your eventual solution to this problem please.
Prefer the Yeti Tundra to the provided Otterbox? I did and had a Yeti of my own so I finally built a slideout for it and it also works as extra countertop when cooking.
2022 Tag Boondock does not have the restrictive box at the top and back end of the cubby so that made the project easier than past models. 20 inch heavy duty locking drawer glides from Home Depot do the trick. Measuring is of the utmost importance so you can clear the latch on the back lip while taking into account the upslope of the floor. There is a tiny lip on each side of the cubby opening that I had to dremel a bit out so the glide locks would fit perfectly and the install would be square. Restained after dremeling and you can't even notice.
Shelf is 3/4 inch cupboard door cut to size and installed directly onto glides. Making a tray with sidewalls is not needed as the sticky feet on the yeti do not allow it to move around on this surface. Drawer glides lock in 3 positions as well. Also, with no sides, easier for me and my wife to take it all the way out without lifting.
Installed the rails to the walls of the cubby with 3/4 inch screws and the glide to the shelf with 3 inch hi quality screws after predrilling pilot holes. VERY sturdy.
Pictures attached and glad to answer any questions you might have as this project took me a year to think through and actually do it. We love having the ability to open the chest without lifting it down when the drawer is open. I store my shore power cord under it as I left a couple of inches available for it.
Love our Tag and just back from Yellowstone. More adventures to come.
Can't figure out how to rotate some of the pictures
Dan
Carry two camp chairs and set them both up as it will make people think twice about who they are potentially encountering. Lock and secure your vehicle and never leave coolers and valuable camping gear out and within reach. Solar panels, generators, bikes, etc. should be locked down and secured to trailer frames when you are away from the area as these are items that can be quickly cherry picked, concealed and easily stolen.
Most campers are honest, but I know of several instances of theft, unsecured trailers have been stolen and in one campground in Wyoming, thieves cased the campground area, came in under the cover of darkness, got into unlocked vehicles, stole wallets, purses, cell phones, camera gear and other valuables.
Keep all possessions, food, valuables, etc. securely stored, keep credit card contact info and records in a spot where you can reference them in the event they are misplaced or stolen and if possible, hide extra keys in case your vehicle is accidentally locked and keys are inside. This has happened to us 2000 miles from home. Keep the trailer tongue locked and use a wheel boot and even when the trailer is parked on your property and place of residence, put the stabilizers down to help discourage theft. These trailers are eye candy to people who can’t afford them and they will go to extraordinary measures to steal them!
I've been kicking this around a bit as a topic for discussion as it comes up often. Perhaps it deserves a thread of its own so here it is.
Hauling energy around is something that just needs doing. We all do it as part of the job of camping. The how and why come in many different shapes and sizes. Basically, it comes down to a combination of three choices: battery, solar or generator. I don't include plugging in to shore power as that's standard equipment. At its core, we are just hauling different kinds of potential energy. Batteries store a finite amount of energy, generators have, by virtue of fuel capacity, a fixed amount of potential energy. You could make the argument that solar power is unlimited, but that has drawbacks as well. It really comes down to how much you need and how you use it.
Inductive versus resistive energy:
It's often bantied about but not so well understood that, for our purposes, energy demands fall into just two categories. At the end of the day, the total energy used for either is less important than how it's made. Resistive energy can be thought of as a constant. I'll use lighting as my example. Turn on a light and energy "starts and runs" at a fixed rate. If a light takes 5 watts to run, it will not take more than 5 watts to "start up". This resistance won't ever change (for all practical purposes anyway) during the life of the light. Anything with a motor, however, uses "inductive energy". Motors take much more energy to start than they do to run. Why? When you first apply energy to a motor it is in a stalled state. Motors have very low resistance, almost zero, when they are not turning. They are by design, a short circuit. As they spin up to speed, the resistance gets higher. That's because the armature is spinning and the brushes only contact the armature as a short circuit for a fraction of a second. Additionally, the load that the motor is turning (think: A/C compressor) is also stalled and therefore needs a lot of power to coax into moving. That's inductive load. Examples of this are the A/C unit, Microwave, ceiling fan and cooling fans for the converter and A/C housing. The small 12 volt fans take very little power, nevertheless they take exponentially more for that fraction of a second to get going. So if all you need is resistive power for lights and clocks and radios, then batteries will do just fine.
Heaters:
There are a few kinds of heaters but most have some sort of fan motor to push air around. The electric furnace I have in my trailer usus, oddly enough, mostly resistive energy. It uses 800 watts for the elements but never takes more than that to "start up". What that means in the real world is that I can calculate my power consumption as 800 watts. There is no "start up" (surge) wattage like in an A/C unit or refrigerator. (To be fair, my furnace has a small fan motor which draws surge wattage, but it's tiny in comparison to the size of the heating elements.) So that means I can calculate my start up and run wattage ad essentially the same. For an A/C unit's inductive load, I need to have a power source that has twice the running energy to start it up. If the A/C unit is rated at, say, 750 watts, I need to have a power source capable of producing twice that, or 1500 watts.
If we didn't have heaters or air conditioning, it would be easy to go a week on the stock battery. There's not much in the way of inductive load that needs to be considered. Few of us, however, do without those things for long.
So what remains is how to carry the energy we need to run the things we want. Back to the basic kinds of stored energy we go.
The best batteries and solar cells in the world will still provide low voltage direct current. Low voltage d.c. Is a fine way to power modest lights, radios and entertainment systems. Heating (including crock pots, toasters and the like) simply draw more power than it's handy to haul around. I won't stump a primer here on Ohms law but suffice to say, if you need high energy (let's just say, more than 200 watts) you need a/c voltage. You simply can't haul anough batteries to get more than that for more than a couple hours. Yes, you can use an inverter to convert d/c to a/c, but the same rules still apply, plus, converters use power and are not particularly efficient either. You end up adding problems as fast as you solve them.
Batteries have half of their rated power available to use. You wouldn't draw your battery to zero any more than you'd drive your TV until you run out. Any energy calculation must be made upon half the capacity of the battery. A generator can produce 100% of its carried capacity. If your generator is rated at X watts and the gad tank holds Y gallons, you'll get X watts for as long as the generator has fuel. It's easy to calculate how much energy you can haul. It's X watts for Y hours. If the gennie puts out 2000 watts and can run for 6 hours on a tank, you have 12000 watts available. Easy. By comparison, if a battery is rated at X amp hours, by converting to watts, then dividing by 2 (half of its capacity) you have its total available energy.
Solar cells are a variation on a theme. Watts available based upon their size and output. The gigantic variable there is the weather. It's reasonable to assume that most of us use much more electricity at night. So any solar option takes us back to batteries.
I get most of my power from my Jeeps generator. It charges my trailer battery as I travel. When I can, I plug into shore power for convenience. When I want to use my heater (most of you can say A/C) off grid, I use my generator. Whichever way works best for you, bear in mind that the best, most efficient way to haul energy around is with a generator. For those who don't like gennies (even the best generator is, or can be, a hassle) then it remains to choose between the remaining options.
Generators are heavy and cumbersome, but so are a couple of high amperage batteries. By any standard other than convenience, generators, being a poor, distant cousin to shore power, are still the most efficient way to carry lots of power. Nothing else comes close. The math requires it.
So for the vast majority of us, the answer is to plug in (one way or another) or do without...
WilliamA
"Give me a lever long enough, and a fulcrum to place it on, and I shall move the world"
Archimedes
Pam,
If you are confused about trailer weight, there's plenty of room in the boat most of us are in so climb aboard! lol Actually, you only think it's hard to visualize. It's actually much worse than that! I'm going to go through 3 of the main components of what makes a trailer go down the road either very well or very badly. Trailer tongue weight, Friction coefficient, and Drag. First, trailer tongue weight:
Trailer weight and tongue weight are one of those things that seems like they should be simple, but understanding what's going on ends up being a bit confusing.
Most folks don't get it right away because they don't understand that trailer weight is always a combination of the two; axle weight AND tongue weight. If you weighed the axle, you'd not get the full trailer weight. You must weigh (and add) the tongue weight AND axle weight to get the trailer weight. I've done a few drawings to illustrate.
Let's start with a simple, cargo trailer with a flat bed:
Spend a couple of minutes looking at what gets weighed and where. Pay no attention to my floating battery and propane tank. They weigh nothing right now! So if you look at the axle weight you'll see it's 1,000 lbs. The tongue weight is 100 lbs, so if you add the two, you'll get the actual trailer weight of 1,100 lbs. Let's say the trailer is 10 feet between the axle and the hitch. That makes it easy. If we put weight anywhere between the hitch and the axle, the weight transfers between those two points at 10% per foot. For example, if I put my propane tank directly over the axle:
you'll see that the axle weight has gone up by 50 lbs and the tongue weight has stayed the same. Add the two again and you'll see that the trailer weight is now 1,150 lbs but the "Tongue" weight has stayed the same.
Now move our propane tank to the very front:
Now the trailer weight is 1,150 lbs, the axle weight is 1,000 lbs and the "Tongue" weight is 150 lbs.
Now let's move the propane tank to the center between the axle and the hitch. It starts to get a bit more esoteric at this point:
Again, you can see that the trailer weight has stayed the same at 1,150 lbs, but the weight of the propane tank is now shared equally between the hitch and the axle. Wait for it...Now it gets "really" weird;
This is the point where folks begin to scratch their heads.
The total trailer weight is 1,150 lbs, so that's not changed. The axle weight has gone up MORE than the total weight of the propane cylinder! How can you add 50 lbs and see the axle weight go up by 60 lbs? Take a look at the trailer "Tongue" weight. You can see that it's gone DOWN by 10 lbs. By placing the weight past the axle center, we are turning the trailer into a lever. We transfer the 10 lbs of weight from the tongue and put it on the axle. The trailer weight is still the same and hasn't gone up or down. The weight is transferring between our axle and hitch. Once you get that, the light starts to shine and things start to make a lot more sense.
WilliamA
Happy May everyone. I hope that you are all weathering up to the situation in good shape.
Stay safe, respect and be thankful for our medical pro's keeping us all upright.
Mask up and camp on.....!
Find someone you know in the medical community and fix them up with a sixer or a bottle of wine. Pay it forward...and backward...
WilliamA
A nearby State Park (Summit Lake) had a single spot available for the weekend, so we decided to make a quick trip. Our second with our T@G, and our second with storms rolling through. We just got the edges of the storm, Saturday morning, and they were over fairly early and fortunately dropped the temps into the 70s. A branch came down on our T@G, but I couldn't see any damage.
One thing of note, I got to answer my wife's question as to why I always bring a tool roll with me after the sink drain got clogged. Now I have to add one of those little wire snake things to the tool roll, which would have been a lot easier and faster.
Hi all, just thought I'd share the mod I just completed on my 2021 T@G 5W.
I'm not an ice cooler person, and i just wanted some drawers to hold my utensils and cups, bowls, pots and pans, this is what I came up with. I have a 12V cooler that stays in the back of the SUV, so this just seems a better use of space for me, once i get a silverware tray...
Removed the microwave and put in a pull out drawer for additional storage.
Bought the doors from Nu Camp to match the existing.